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Lol like we make a dent on their network, they have milked everyone with their high ass fees in the name of bettering the network, and they still bitch. Under the bridge downtown. With manufacturers updating their lineups at least once a year, month contracts were a huge obstacle for users who wanted to stay up to date. They can do whatever they want but I have no interest in Verizon whatsoever, otherwise. So I definitely feel your pain.
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Does that consider to be a Verizon contract? I got that plan and love it. You have nothing to fear with 20 GB. You clearly did not read the first sentence of the first article. Regardless of where you go, you will have a limited data package. Real people cannot have a conversation that includes technicalities? So… 2 Yes they are Title II whop whop!!

No one should feel sorry for Verizon. UPD customers like myself are not doing anything that might affect the network. What Verizon is seeing is millions of dollars that they are losing per year due to the gig per dollar ratio that unlimited users are costing them.

What on earth could you be doing on your phone that justifies that? Do some of you not see that glowing ball in the sky outside your window? Where i live the only options are satellite and LTE. Satellite is half a step above useless.

I also travel for work so I am constantly streaming music or podcast. Plus, the vast majority of publicly available wifi, including hotels, completely sucks. Well, where I work, in a long 2-story building, we get superb wi-fi coverage anywhere downstairs but upstairs is spotty due to just a few employees working up there.

Furthermore, the warehouse portion of the complex has minimal wi-fi coverage and due to concrete walls, the wi-fi signal LTE too! Earlier this year we were in between houses while moving and rented a place for a while.

TV was included via DirecTV but the property had no internet service at all and had never been wired for cable or U-Verse. And the closest neighbors were too far away to jump on their guest network.

So my grandfathered UDP was a godsend for those 5 months…now, we did no Netflix but plenty of music streaming, web browsing and whatnot. I think the most my wife and I ever used was 55GB in a month and that was with pretty heavy usage.

Come and get me you bastards. I know this because I had a friend who was on their network and all he did was complain about their non-existant service. There was that one time a couple years ago that he actually got full bars and fast speeds… But that was at the top of some bleachers and he must of been right under the tower or something.

I tried their day trial period and ended up pretty annoyed. In the end it was taken care of but calling once every couple of days for two months made me really hate this company.

At least 2 or 3 times I was told it had been taken care of only to get another letter from collections a week or two later. Their service was sub par but their customer support was exceptional. T-Mobile seems to rock in this area.

Shield tablet streaming Netflix just fine to TV. And so it begins….. I use about GB per month my phone is my hotspot that powers all of my devices. So how are we supposed to take advantage of our unlimited data?

By measuring how we use it and how much we use it? Might as well not even have it then. I bet you will not notice a difference the network will perform the same as it always has.

They want to push their free data apps and maintain control over the way in which we consume our information. There is no cable provider for my house. I read on Android Police that this is only affecting people who use over GB.

Last month I used I used GB a few months ago, but am down to about on average now. I have used GB one month, this month im at You dont have internet at your home? Not trying to be mean, just wondering how someone can use GB of data.

My comcast usage is nearly GB for a month. And I specifically selected my ULD package when they offered them. Verizon allows newer plans to tether data because they are apart of the new spectrum licensing.

Older plans do not offer free data tethering. You specifically stated that you used your phone for playing Xbox and the only way to do that is by tethering Either wired or wirelessly.

Thus you cheated the system. And thus, I have, and will continue to do so, until notified otherwise. So I was by far the most amazing, cheapest data plan around. People were paying 2x the price I was as were getting less than I was for their dollar.

Well this is actually good news. They WANT you to use lots of data. They just want you to pay a high price for it. When did I say it was about network issues? There are carriers in the US that let you do that too.

Nothing is ever free btw. My job already did this to me, 50gb a month. I use WiFi when available and down to 3gb. Their allocation is 2gb per employee. TMobile did it but it was upwards of 2TB per user.

Verizon should set the bar rather high, or risk losing customers to other carriers. Rarely do I use my hotspot. I hope thats not considered excessive. End of this month 4 phones will be out of contract.

I really doubt you will get any hassle for 20 GB a month. Yeah, kinda thinking that too. Because yes there are some who use way way more than some. Big blue never wanted to bring it back but if they do that then they will also lose my DirecTV money as Well.

I have it bundled so if the take one they will lose one. Gotta love word play in fine print. Are they supposed to notify you if they do? Not sure but like I say to the other guy. They take my unlimited data then I take my money away from DirecTV.

I use DirecTV anyway but still I can get cable or sling or something. Sure there have been some months I tethered and pulled about 30GB. Remember when carriers pushed their roll over minutes and then we had unlimited calling?

The same will eventually happen with data. Unlimted data will return! We have to go through this garbage for a few years and then data will become so cheap or there will intense competition, they will have to go unlimited or give people a lot of data for cheap.

Or more money than them. Lol Well I am a socialist. I believe we should all share girlfriends too. Now get out of the way. Lol well I am a socialist. Now get out of the way, so I can watch VZW users squirm.

Thankfully, we can get some clue of what the number is online, as I and hopefully many like me will share their usage and whether or not they were affected. Thanks for the heads up Kellex!

Just curious, what the hell are you doing on your phone that requires GB of data? I pull around 80mbs off peak demand and 60mbs from 4pm to 9pm on peak. Netflix, Hulu, Kodi, that all adds up when you have a whole house and other phones not on unlimited so they need my wifi.

Phone as home internet provider… yeah I can see how you would use that much data now. No wonder Verizon is cracking down. Not saying I agree with them though. I sorely miss my unlimited data.

But if there are a bunch of people out there doing the same as you then I can see why Big Red is upset. Verizon can disconnect your service for using high data amounts even if you are on contract, they just have to eat the ETF if they do.

To all of you cheering Verizon about this is not looking at the big picture. Will you be cheering when they charge more for less data? Verizon is proving that they can do what they want when they want and still have customers on their side.

If this effects you or not, you should still speak out over how they are doing this. It was a failure of Verizon not realizing their network load from their userbase and now backtracking on their original agreement on or off contract.

They promised unlimited data from the start. Now, one could argue that the original terms only promised 2G speeds, or whatever was current at the time, and that would be a technically correct loophole, but to forcibly cancel your plan, just because they no longer feel the need to honor the promised terms?

These practices, which unfortunately are not uncommon for Verizon, are the sole reason I dropped them in the first place. I imagine that all of these carriers have teams of legal experts that pour over these contracts.

It was the voice minutes and per-text cost that really mattered. I use an average of gb per month. Only problem is my wife and I got new phones in January…. We have 4 phones with unlimited over here because of subscribed to uverse.

Come to sweet big blue. I got that plan and love it. If we get booted, this is probably what we will do too. Well, I would port my number over to GV first and then forward it to wherever I am at.

Can you do a poll, to see how many of Droid Life readers still has Unlimited Data? I still have it.. These crooked companies are putting america behind in the tech race.

What happens to all that ununsed bandwidth?? I think their largest published tiered plan currently available is GB. Although, I think they recently raised that to 1TB.

Nope, it actually got a bit easier after the price hike last fall. I knew this would happen eventually, my guess is that extraordinary amount will be anything over their 4gb plan. There is nothing shady about using alternative upgrades.

Realized tiered data plans, or deprioritized unlimited data sucks. To each his own…. Maybe it depends on the games or videos in question? This past week we were out of town half the week and my usage was still 78GB for the week.

Like, is Facebook the only thing you use or something? Some of us even prefer fresh air outdoors if you can believe it! Maybe try and spend some time outdoors with your newfound free time.

Nice subtle insult that has nothing to do with data usage. I have everyone here beat, I guarantee. My wife is already doing this and she loves it. Why does everyone think GB is extraordinary?

In my case, the Total amount I currently pay is equal to what the 8GB a month plan would cost me now. I meant equivalent in price of the data plans. Hmm… The time has arrived my friends.

Might finally be Fi or T-Mo time for me. Unless VZW can give me some sort of crazy promotional offer for going on a tiered plan. Not sure they would want to lose a 10 year customer like that.

It could be a lot less. Is there something wrong with that? Yeah, you could have been getting faster speeds and using less battery if you had connected to Wi-Fi. But to each their own I suppose.

Until very recently my cell data was faster than my home ISP. This changed when my ISP finally updated their systems from 30down 5up to down 20 up. I can and did pull 55 down 15up pretty consistently in my house.

At which point they will lose me for life. Landline here I come. After that, they just have to give you 30 days notice and they can do whatever they want with you. Thanks, I am still under contract and will continue to be as long as I can, so maybe I will have this plan more than 3 years.

Good to see that the abusers are being kicked off. No problem with that. I average about 8 gigs a month and my wife averages about 5. How exactly is it abusing? Unlimited is just that. And they removed mobile wifi hot spot as a connected feature with unlimited a while ago.

Except it even mentions in the contract about it being for the device, not other devices. Read your contract and you will see. And yes data is data, but it was never meant to run your whole home internet.

Kind of impossible these days on an unlimited account or mobile account in general honestly. Any device that you can root like Nexus phones can bypass the check for teathering WiFi hotspot. Im pretty sure VZW patched that a little bit ago.

Exactly what Daniel said. A couple of quick text edits the proper config file and there is no auth check. Still works today just as before. I have the same opinion. Their high and mighty purch was throwing rocks in a glass house and they are getting what they deserve.

I would be mighty curious to see if that graph changes at all in two months time when you can do a followup poll. I for one am surprised it has taken this long for them to start actively cancelling their contract free unlimited customers.

Of course all of this is pulled straight outta my ass. Unlimited data was simply an oversight by Verizon, when they were trying to charge you out the yang for messages and minutes.

They are simply trying to correct it by heating the pan slowly. The data flows throw your phone before it is shared, so there is that. So the all you can eat buffet means you can graze on it for days until YOU decide to go home?

Technically, they promised it for your contract term. This says they will be disconnecting people that are out of contract, which means they are no longer under that promise they gave you.

That is my understanding. D your time has come: Even though tmobile sucks at some places but so does verizon. And the only reason you are making comments like this is because you inside are crying out for UDP?

I have UDP just not with Verizon. I am just happy they are starting to do something about abusers: The unlimited data was for use on your actual phone, lets be honest the people abusers he is referring to are not using over GB just on the single handset, clearly they are modifying something to able to use the hotspot feature.

So no they are not using what they paid for.. Not everyone modifies and some play by the rules that Verizon sets. I used 60GB on my phone alone a few months back.

Personally I got sick of the status symbol they thought they were in these forums saying ha you guys are suckers at every chance. I went through this last year myself. That cannot be done anymore.

Or buy at full retail. Because no one has the coverage you want. If I get kicked, I will most certainly leave.. I have three bars of Verizon LTE right now and my speed test just got me 7mbps.

My wife gets between 8 and 9 on Cricket unlimited. She streams Netflix with her hotspot every single day. No problems at all. All in full HD. Cricket is the best option, for sure.

Plus, if you have an unlocked Verizon phone, all you have to do is pop in a Cricket SIM card and it works. My wife has the Verizon S7 Edge and it works perfect. Hotspot is unlocked too without root or Foxfi.

I have the same phone. LOL at people like you with wool pulled over your eyes. You think Verizon is doing this for their customers?? Congestion is not a problem. Already test drove Project Fi for over five months.

Was perfectly happy with it. Pretty much this, I could see them going one tier below just to give you something to aim for if you had come off UD. Seriously what are you doing on you phone that you pull that much through the network?

Highest I ever saw was 65 and I was out of town 3 weeks traveling and watched a lot of movies. I always stream music, watch shows and YouTube shows on my breaks and lunch at work.

Sure I can download things but limited storage why would I when I have unlimited data? People sometimes cancel their home internet, tether their phones to a router and… stream, game, surf, etc.

This is a fact. But he was responding to the person saying Bye Bye Verizon because of this. Only those off contract will be hit by this. Well, that actually depends. The cost of providing the data is roughly 18 cents per GB.

Granted, the Text and minutes part of the plan starting at a higher price point would mean they start losing money around the GB mark used. Where did you come up with 18 cents per GB?

I was looking at the data from The most recent data is showing that the attributed cost per GB is less than a penny per GB now. And even most of the data used in the article I reference below is from Now, you could argue the total cost could be higher with infrastructure, but that would be a fixed cost as it is equipment and would be attributed regardless of if a person was using data or not as the connection would need to be available.

Can they just choose to shut my account down? Pretty sure if you are out of contract, they just need to give you 30 days notice on any change they want to make. At this point, without some insane, ridiculous work-around that some employee would have to be in-on to help you with..

If you have another line on the account, then transfer your upgrade to the other line and get a new phone on-contract on the other line. I have always transferred my upgrade to another line, then swapped that sim for my sim, to give myself a new phone.

It puts us into a new contract every time, which extends my unlimited each time. This is for groups of ppl that use GB, root their phone and provide their entire household internet while using over GB.

Think about how much their congesting the network around them by doing that. When I had unlimited data, ATT would have to authorize it first and it would say call customer service due to plan restriction.

What am I missing here? But then you said you needed to tether of of your iPad to stream music?? Yeah totally missing something. Sometimes gets used as mapping for Ingress ops too. I thought you were referring the other way around.

Makes much more sense now. Thanks for the explanation! The problem is their own terms and conditions only state a situation for excessive roaming or illegal use of data access. If they kick someone under an old unlimited plan just because of having a low GB threshold, the FCC will be flooded with complaints, not to forget the lawsuits which would come out of it.

And yes, small claims lawsuits are possible and very costly for Verizon or any carrier. Except they are under a month to month contract. That means Verizon can choose to terminate that the same as the customer can.

If they were doing this to people under a contract, then they would definitely be in the wrong and would probably get sued over it. Problem with your logic is the fact Verizon has to honor all non-termination fee based conditions after ending the contract.

The customer may be in a month to month basis, but the conditions of the plan and benefits of it are still vigent until either the customer leaves the carrier or changes plan on their own will. Just because Verizon wants all their grandfathered customers on unlimited data plans in tiered plans does NOT give them the right to force people out of those plans if they want to stay as their customers beyond their contractual obligations involving an early termination fee.

This is going to cause a lot of problems at Verizon Wireless if they follow through kicking people out of their carriers, and I hope they have enough lawyers and a big budget to represent them in every state where they provide service.

Fines from the proper agencies, and individual action from clients either via arbitration or small claims, per the terms and conditions set by Verizon Wireless.

This is simply untrue. Incorrect, as is the option of the customer to leave on their own will, unless Verizon abandons x or y market, the customer uses excessive roaming, or unauthorized uses of the service.

Just because Verizon wants people to change their plans to more expensive ones does not make it legal for them to kick them out just because of those customers not willing to change their plans, as Verizon Wireless is subject to certain rules under Title II classification by the FCC.

If any cellular carrier was allowed to do so, every couple of years you will see major shifts in customers among carriers. If it has a price for service, it is tarriffed in the way of a monthly fee plus applicable slState and Federal taxes and carrier related fees which are not part of the tarriff for the service itself.

Sorry bubba, but a tarriffed service has a rate on it, whether is metered by the minute, GigaByte, or unlimited. You are missing the point about cell phone carriers being regulated under title II classification under the current FCC rules established by the Telecommunications Act, in the same way landline phone companies and ISPs are regulated currently.

I would strongly recommend reading of the entire Title II section of the Telecommunications Act of before making another comment. It would be much harder under Title I. Verizon is still beholden to the terms of the contract.

Most big corporations have changed their contract terms to require customers to go through binding arbitration rather than traditional courtroom litigation. Suing large corporations is quickly becoming a thing of the past.

You can either choose arbitration or small claims. And while the Supreme Court has ruled that contracts can bar you from class action lawsuits, if you have a grievance that is covered by law, no contact can prevent you from taking a company to an appropriate court.

There are some rights that no company can take away from you regardless of how a contract is worded. Verizon is no longer contractually obligated to honor the unlimited LTE data plan.

You can continue to get service but not at that promotional offer. Another example would be an all you can eat buffet. The plans are not offered to new customers, but the ones who have it are legally grandfathered on them as long as they want to keep them, and legally, Verizon would be legally bound to honor those plans until either the month to month customer leaves or decides to change plan on its own will.

The contract you agree to has a very specific clause in it in regard to accounts that do not renew contract. The clause in general states that once you fulfill your contact obligation you may continue service on a month to month basis.

If during this time the carrier retains the right to terminate service as long as they notify you. The clause was put in and still is as a safety net that allows them to force customers off plans that are not profitable.

If you look at your current contract it there as well. Once you go month to month you are no longer legally protected to maintain service. Why grandfather plans then? Because it easier and more cost effective to allow customers to switch over time.

After that they have the ability to say, we have you the service you signed up for under contract and that has ended so we are going to terminate any further business with you.

Not true, and the FCC can fine Verizon heavily for this. Legally, it will cost them, and customer wise, they are risking to lose a chunk of their share to the other three major carriers and some regionals.

What would they fine them for? Did they provide you service for the length of your contract? Are they charging you for them disconnecting your service? So, What law or regulation would they be breaking?

I am a retail employee of verizon. I am expressing solely my opinion and my limited knowledge on this topic, and my opinions in no way express the views of Verizon. As far as I know, every plan we have has a date in it that states just how long the plans, promotional data, and specials, will be offered.

For instance, all of the original unlimited plans before LTE were going for You clearly did not read the first sentence of the first article. This only affects out of contract people that did not renew and lock in their plan.

Their grandfathered plans are locked from a legal perspective, even if their contracts have been completed. The only condition not enforceable is the one about termination fees. There is no legal perspective that binds Verizon to keep servicing a plan that no longer makes them money.

That would be equivalent to you showing up to the gas station and demanding them sell it to you for 1. You are comparing apples to oranges. Verizon is obligated to keep those customers as long as they are being paid.

Here it is from Verizon Wireless site: What are Verizon Wireless rights to limit or end service or end this Agreement? We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause.

That can be challenged, and it has been defeated. Which lead to this fine last year by the FCC: This is going to be fun, and picking up bits and pieces to make your argument valid while ignoring many other pieces of information is not the way to defeat the argument of customes being grandfathered on plans they currently have until they either leave or change plans ON THEIR OWN.

You found one thing I was wrong about and ignored ALL the other valid parts because they do not support your narrative. The can refuse you cell phone service and the best you can do is walk to small claims court and try to get some nickels and dimes from them cause direct damages only under the agreement.

Which means FCC has nothing to go on and as Verizon User points out they can terminate service for good cause. Using in excess of GB on one line may not look too well if your painting Verizon as being bad guy.

The answer is they cannot for two reasons:. The logic is similar, and Verizon can be seriously punished. If Verizon is allowed to proceed, what would be the next thing they will try.

I bet if they add a condition which tells customers they must have a minimum income and not live in neighborhoods where they cannot make their desired revenue in order to kep service is perfectly legal?

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You just have to remember to check a few things before you do that. Not so long ago, long-term agreements were the most popular way of buying new smartphones on the biggest US carriers. This method had its advantages, such as allowed you to buy a decent phone for cheap or sometimes get it for free, but its major downside was that it locked customers to one network and phone usually for as long as two years.

With manufacturers updating their lineups at least once a year, month contracts were a huge obstacle for users who wanted to stay up to date. Having that in mind, in mid Verizon followed the trend on the market and removed contracts from its offer.

With them gone is subsidized pricing forcing customers to buy phones at full retail price or choose one of financing plans. While at first it may seem like a catch, it actually provides a few interesting options.

For instance, you can buy a used or refurbished phone, which tend to be much cheaper than brand new models, or use a phone you already own on the network of your choice.

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Having that in mind, in mid Verizon followed the trend on the market and removed contracts from its offer. With them gone is subsidized pricing forcing customers to buy phones at full retail price or choose one of financing plans.

While at first it may seem like a catch, it actually provides a few interesting options. For instance, you can buy a used or refurbished phone, which tend to be much cheaper than brand new models, or use a phone you already own on the network of your choice.

Of course, first you should check if the phone will actually work with the carrier. Both technologies are very different from each other and as of now there is no easy fix that can make a GSM device compatible with a CDMA network.

At the moment, 4G LTE is the highest standard for wireless internet. In other words, a phone needs to be capable of tuning into frequencies specific to the carrier of your choice in order to work properly.

Otherwise, you may have to deal with some serious issues such as significantly slower downloads or no service at all. As far as LTE is concerned, though, making sure the frequency matches is not the only thing to check.

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Look for items sold by Walmart. So how are we supposed to take advantage of our unlimited data? By measuring how we use it and how much we use it? Might as well not even have it then.

I bet you will not notice a difference the network will perform the same as it always has. They want to push their free data apps and maintain control over the way in which we consume our information.

There is no cable provider for my house. I read on Android Police that this is only affecting people who use over GB. Last month I used I used GB a few months ago, but am down to about on average now.

I have used GB one month, this month im at You dont have internet at your home? Not trying to be mean, just wondering how someone can use GB of data. My comcast usage is nearly GB for a month. And I specifically selected my ULD package when they offered them.

Verizon allows newer plans to tether data because they are apart of the new spectrum licensing. Older plans do not offer free data tethering. You specifically stated that you used your phone for playing Xbox and the only way to do that is by tethering Either wired or wirelessly.

Thus you cheated the system. And thus, I have, and will continue to do so, until notified otherwise. So I was by far the most amazing, cheapest data plan around. People were paying 2x the price I was as were getting less than I was for their dollar.

Well this is actually good news. They WANT you to use lots of data. They just want you to pay a high price for it. When did I say it was about network issues? There are carriers in the US that let you do that too.

Nothing is ever free btw. My job already did this to me, 50gb a month. I use WiFi when available and down to 3gb. Their allocation is 2gb per employee. TMobile did it but it was upwards of 2TB per user.

Verizon should set the bar rather high, or risk losing customers to other carriers. Rarely do I use my hotspot. I hope thats not considered excessive. End of this month 4 phones will be out of contract.

I really doubt you will get any hassle for 20 GB a month. Yeah, kinda thinking that too. Because yes there are some who use way way more than some. Big blue never wanted to bring it back but if they do that then they will also lose my DirecTV money as Well.

I have it bundled so if the take one they will lose one. Gotta love word play in fine print. Are they supposed to notify you if they do? Not sure but like I say to the other guy.

They take my unlimited data then I take my money away from DirecTV. I use DirecTV anyway but still I can get cable or sling or something. Sure there have been some months I tethered and pulled about 30GB.

Remember when carriers pushed their roll over minutes and then we had unlimited calling? The same will eventually happen with data. Unlimted data will return!

We have to go through this garbage for a few years and then data will become so cheap or there will intense competition, they will have to go unlimited or give people a lot of data for cheap.

Or more money than them. Lol Well I am a socialist. I believe we should all share girlfriends too. Now get out of the way. Lol well I am a socialist. Now get out of the way, so I can watch VZW users squirm.

Thankfully, we can get some clue of what the number is online, as I and hopefully many like me will share their usage and whether or not they were affected. Thanks for the heads up Kellex!

Just curious, what the hell are you doing on your phone that requires GB of data? I pull around 80mbs off peak demand and 60mbs from 4pm to 9pm on peak. Netflix, Hulu, Kodi, that all adds up when you have a whole house and other phones not on unlimited so they need my wifi.

Phone as home internet provider… yeah I can see how you would use that much data now. No wonder Verizon is cracking down. Not saying I agree with them though.

I sorely miss my unlimited data. But if there are a bunch of people out there doing the same as you then I can see why Big Red is upset. Verizon can disconnect your service for using high data amounts even if you are on contract, they just have to eat the ETF if they do.

To all of you cheering Verizon about this is not looking at the big picture. Will you be cheering when they charge more for less data? Verizon is proving that they can do what they want when they want and still have customers on their side.

If this effects you or not, you should still speak out over how they are doing this. It was a failure of Verizon not realizing their network load from their userbase and now backtracking on their original agreement on or off contract.

They promised unlimited data from the start. Now, one could argue that the original terms only promised 2G speeds, or whatever was current at the time, and that would be a technically correct loophole, but to forcibly cancel your plan, just because they no longer feel the need to honor the promised terms?

These practices, which unfortunately are not uncommon for Verizon, are the sole reason I dropped them in the first place. I imagine that all of these carriers have teams of legal experts that pour over these contracts.

It was the voice minutes and per-text cost that really mattered. I use an average of gb per month. Only problem is my wife and I got new phones in January….

We have 4 phones with unlimited over here because of subscribed to uverse. Come to sweet big blue. I got that plan and love it. If we get booted, this is probably what we will do too.

Well, I would port my number over to GV first and then forward it to wherever I am at. Can you do a poll, to see how many of Droid Life readers still has Unlimited Data? I still have it..

These crooked companies are putting america behind in the tech race. What happens to all that ununsed bandwidth?? I think their largest published tiered plan currently available is GB.

Although, I think they recently raised that to 1TB. Nope, it actually got a bit easier after the price hike last fall. I knew this would happen eventually, my guess is that extraordinary amount will be anything over their 4gb plan.

There is nothing shady about using alternative upgrades. Realized tiered data plans, or deprioritized unlimited data sucks. To each his own…. Maybe it depends on the games or videos in question?

This past week we were out of town half the week and my usage was still 78GB for the week. Like, is Facebook the only thing you use or something? Some of us even prefer fresh air outdoors if you can believe it!

Maybe try and spend some time outdoors with your newfound free time. Nice subtle insult that has nothing to do with data usage. I have everyone here beat, I guarantee. My wife is already doing this and she loves it.

Why does everyone think GB is extraordinary? In my case, the Total amount I currently pay is equal to what the 8GB a month plan would cost me now. I meant equivalent in price of the data plans. Hmm… The time has arrived my friends.

Might finally be Fi or T-Mo time for me. Unless VZW can give me some sort of crazy promotional offer for going on a tiered plan. Not sure they would want to lose a 10 year customer like that.

It could be a lot less. Is there something wrong with that? Yeah, you could have been getting faster speeds and using less battery if you had connected to Wi-Fi. But to each their own I suppose.

Until very recently my cell data was faster than my home ISP. This changed when my ISP finally updated their systems from 30down 5up to down 20 up. I can and did pull 55 down 15up pretty consistently in my house.

At which point they will lose me for life. Landline here I come. After that, they just have to give you 30 days notice and they can do whatever they want with you. Thanks, I am still under contract and will continue to be as long as I can, so maybe I will have this plan more than 3 years.

Good to see that the abusers are being kicked off. No problem with that. I average about 8 gigs a month and my wife averages about 5. How exactly is it abusing? Unlimited is just that.

And they removed mobile wifi hot spot as a connected feature with unlimited a while ago. Except it even mentions in the contract about it being for the device, not other devices.

Read your contract and you will see. And yes data is data, but it was never meant to run your whole home internet. Kind of impossible these days on an unlimited account or mobile account in general honestly.

Any device that you can root like Nexus phones can bypass the check for teathering WiFi hotspot. Im pretty sure VZW patched that a little bit ago. Exactly what Daniel said.

A couple of quick text edits the proper config file and there is no auth check. Still works today just as before. I have the same opinion. Their high and mighty purch was throwing rocks in a glass house and they are getting what they deserve.

I would be mighty curious to see if that graph changes at all in two months time when you can do a followup poll. I for one am surprised it has taken this long for them to start actively cancelling their contract free unlimited customers.

Of course all of this is pulled straight outta my ass. Unlimited data was simply an oversight by Verizon, when they were trying to charge you out the yang for messages and minutes.

They are simply trying to correct it by heating the pan slowly. The data flows throw your phone before it is shared, so there is that. So the all you can eat buffet means you can graze on it for days until YOU decide to go home?

Technically, they promised it for your contract term. This says they will be disconnecting people that are out of contract, which means they are no longer under that promise they gave you.

That is my understanding. D your time has come: Even though tmobile sucks at some places but so does verizon. And the only reason you are making comments like this is because you inside are crying out for UDP?

I have UDP just not with Verizon. I am just happy they are starting to do something about abusers: The unlimited data was for use on your actual phone, lets be honest the people abusers he is referring to are not using over GB just on the single handset, clearly they are modifying something to able to use the hotspot feature.

So no they are not using what they paid for.. Not everyone modifies and some play by the rules that Verizon sets. I used 60GB on my phone alone a few months back. Personally I got sick of the status symbol they thought they were in these forums saying ha you guys are suckers at every chance.

I went through this last year myself. That cannot be done anymore. Or buy at full retail. Because no one has the coverage you want. If I get kicked, I will most certainly leave..

I have three bars of Verizon LTE right now and my speed test just got me 7mbps. My wife gets between 8 and 9 on Cricket unlimited. She streams Netflix with her hotspot every single day.

No problems at all. All in full HD. Cricket is the best option, for sure. Plus, if you have an unlocked Verizon phone, all you have to do is pop in a Cricket SIM card and it works.

My wife has the Verizon S7 Edge and it works perfect. Hotspot is unlocked too without root or Foxfi. I have the same phone. LOL at people like you with wool pulled over your eyes.

You think Verizon is doing this for their customers?? Congestion is not a problem. Already test drove Project Fi for over five months. Was perfectly happy with it. Pretty much this, I could see them going one tier below just to give you something to aim for if you had come off UD.

Seriously what are you doing on you phone that you pull that much through the network? Highest I ever saw was 65 and I was out of town 3 weeks traveling and watched a lot of movies.

I always stream music, watch shows and YouTube shows on my breaks and lunch at work. Sure I can download things but limited storage why would I when I have unlimited data? People sometimes cancel their home internet, tether their phones to a router and… stream, game, surf, etc.

This is a fact. But he was responding to the person saying Bye Bye Verizon because of this. Only those off contract will be hit by this. Well, that actually depends. The cost of providing the data is roughly 18 cents per GB.

Granted, the Text and minutes part of the plan starting at a higher price point would mean they start losing money around the GB mark used. Where did you come up with 18 cents per GB? I was looking at the data from The most recent data is showing that the attributed cost per GB is less than a penny per GB now.

And even most of the data used in the article I reference below is from Now, you could argue the total cost could be higher with infrastructure, but that would be a fixed cost as it is equipment and would be attributed regardless of if a person was using data or not as the connection would need to be available.

Can they just choose to shut my account down? Pretty sure if you are out of contract, they just need to give you 30 days notice on any change they want to make. At this point, without some insane, ridiculous work-around that some employee would have to be in-on to help you with..

If you have another line on the account, then transfer your upgrade to the other line and get a new phone on-contract on the other line. I have always transferred my upgrade to another line, then swapped that sim for my sim, to give myself a new phone.

It puts us into a new contract every time, which extends my unlimited each time. This is for groups of ppl that use GB, root their phone and provide their entire household internet while using over GB.

Think about how much their congesting the network around them by doing that. When I had unlimited data, ATT would have to authorize it first and it would say call customer service due to plan restriction.

What am I missing here? But then you said you needed to tether of of your iPad to stream music?? Yeah totally missing something. Sometimes gets used as mapping for Ingress ops too.

I thought you were referring the other way around. Makes much more sense now. Thanks for the explanation! The problem is their own terms and conditions only state a situation for excessive roaming or illegal use of data access.

If they kick someone under an old unlimited plan just because of having a low GB threshold, the FCC will be flooded with complaints, not to forget the lawsuits which would come out of it.

And yes, small claims lawsuits are possible and very costly for Verizon or any carrier. Except they are under a month to month contract. That means Verizon can choose to terminate that the same as the customer can.

If they were doing this to people under a contract, then they would definitely be in the wrong and would probably get sued over it. Problem with your logic is the fact Verizon has to honor all non-termination fee based conditions after ending the contract.

The customer may be in a month to month basis, but the conditions of the plan and benefits of it are still vigent until either the customer leaves the carrier or changes plan on their own will.

Just because Verizon wants all their grandfathered customers on unlimited data plans in tiered plans does NOT give them the right to force people out of those plans if they want to stay as their customers beyond their contractual obligations involving an early termination fee.

This is going to cause a lot of problems at Verizon Wireless if they follow through kicking people out of their carriers, and I hope they have enough lawyers and a big budget to represent them in every state where they provide service.

Fines from the proper agencies, and individual action from clients either via arbitration or small claims, per the terms and conditions set by Verizon Wireless. This is simply untrue. Incorrect, as is the option of the customer to leave on their own will, unless Verizon abandons x or y market, the customer uses excessive roaming, or unauthorized uses of the service.

Just because Verizon wants people to change their plans to more expensive ones does not make it legal for them to kick them out just because of those customers not willing to change their plans, as Verizon Wireless is subject to certain rules under Title II classification by the FCC.

If any cellular carrier was allowed to do so, every couple of years you will see major shifts in customers among carriers. If it has a price for service, it is tarriffed in the way of a monthly fee plus applicable slState and Federal taxes and carrier related fees which are not part of the tarriff for the service itself.

Sorry bubba, but a tarriffed service has a rate on it, whether is metered by the minute, GigaByte, or unlimited. You are missing the point about cell phone carriers being regulated under title II classification under the current FCC rules established by the Telecommunications Act, in the same way landline phone companies and ISPs are regulated currently.

I would strongly recommend reading of the entire Title II section of the Telecommunications Act of before making another comment. It would be much harder under Title I.

Verizon is still beholden to the terms of the contract. Most big corporations have changed their contract terms to require customers to go through binding arbitration rather than traditional courtroom litigation.

Suing large corporations is quickly becoming a thing of the past. You can either choose arbitration or small claims. And while the Supreme Court has ruled that contracts can bar you from class action lawsuits, if you have a grievance that is covered by law, no contact can prevent you from taking a company to an appropriate court.

There are some rights that no company can take away from you regardless of how a contract is worded. Verizon is no longer contractually obligated to honor the unlimited LTE data plan.

You can continue to get service but not at that promotional offer. Another example would be an all you can eat buffet. The plans are not offered to new customers, but the ones who have it are legally grandfathered on them as long as they want to keep them, and legally, Verizon would be legally bound to honor those plans until either the month to month customer leaves or decides to change plan on its own will.

The contract you agree to has a very specific clause in it in regard to accounts that do not renew contract. The clause in general states that once you fulfill your contact obligation you may continue service on a month to month basis.

If during this time the carrier retains the right to terminate service as long as they notify you. The clause was put in and still is as a safety net that allows them to force customers off plans that are not profitable.

If you look at your current contract it there as well. Once you go month to month you are no longer legally protected to maintain service. Why grandfather plans then? Because it easier and more cost effective to allow customers to switch over time.

After that they have the ability to say, we have you the service you signed up for under contract and that has ended so we are going to terminate any further business with you.

Not true, and the FCC can fine Verizon heavily for this. Legally, it will cost them, and customer wise, they are risking to lose a chunk of their share to the other three major carriers and some regionals.

What would they fine them for? Did they provide you service for the length of your contract? Are they charging you for them disconnecting your service? So, What law or regulation would they be breaking?

I am a retail employee of verizon. I am expressing solely my opinion and my limited knowledge on this topic, and my opinions in no way express the views of Verizon. As far as I know, every plan we have has a date in it that states just how long the plans, promotional data, and specials, will be offered.

For instance, all of the original unlimited plans before LTE were going for You clearly did not read the first sentence of the first article. This only affects out of contract people that did not renew and lock in their plan.

Their grandfathered plans are locked from a legal perspective, even if their contracts have been completed. The only condition not enforceable is the one about termination fees.

There is no legal perspective that binds Verizon to keep servicing a plan that no longer makes them money. That would be equivalent to you showing up to the gas station and demanding them sell it to you for 1.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Verizon is obligated to keep those customers as long as they are being paid. Here it is from Verizon Wireless site: What are Verizon Wireless rights to limit or end service or end this Agreement?

We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause. That can be challenged, and it has been defeated. Which lead to this fine last year by the FCC: This is going to be fun, and picking up bits and pieces to make your argument valid while ignoring many other pieces of information is not the way to defeat the argument of customes being grandfathered on plans they currently have until they either leave or change plans ON THEIR OWN.

You found one thing I was wrong about and ignored ALL the other valid parts because they do not support your narrative. The can refuse you cell phone service and the best you can do is walk to small claims court and try to get some nickels and dimes from them cause direct damages only under the agreement.

Which means FCC has nothing to go on and as Verizon User points out they can terminate service for good cause. Using in excess of GB on one line may not look too well if your painting Verizon as being bad guy.

The answer is they cannot for two reasons:. The logic is similar, and Verizon can be seriously punished. If Verizon is allowed to proceed, what would be the next thing they will try.

I bet if they add a condition which tells customers they must have a minimum income and not live in neighborhoods where they cannot make their desired revenue in order to kep service is perfectly legal?

Verizon cannot nitpick what they want to enforce from their Terms and Conditions while ignore the rights of the consumer, especially those who have chosen to stay after their contractual agreements have been completed.

Those saying the terms and conditions do not apply when going month to month, think again. The ONLY clause Verizon cannot enforce legally is the one involving termination fees or any financial obligation for a phone which was purchased on monthly installments leases are a different story, while all other terms and conditions are active for as long as the customer stays and pays for the service.

So… 2 Yes they are Title II whop whop!! However, while FCC has jurisdiction over them they specifically suspended the conditions regarding consumer pricing and availability in order to make the whole open internet initiative more palatable.

Which means not much meat on that for them to possibly destroy the open internet initiative for a very small fraction of consumers. The ATT and Verizon are two vastly different cases and the only crossover between them would be grandfathered plan.

So, saying they are logically similar is like saying a motorcycle is the same as a wheeler insofar as they both have wheels. So that is not a hypothetical that is the reason why you had Google Fiber rollout trying to combat that practice that has left millions of homes without internet access.

I mention that because FCC recently reported on that but…….. Yea, those customers they are about to AX are screwed because some do it because of the providing High Speed internet to them is not profitable for providers.

Any chance you have a copy of the original terms? I think I have one printed out somewhere but want to find a replacement copy if possible… just in cast. You seem to be one of the very few here that understands contract law.

Most people are not in contracts anymore and they Verizon has canceled contracts on people before and just waived the ETF. As far as I know lots of time in the industry and watching Verizon and other carriers do this before any carrier can terminate you if they want to… With Verizon claiming their average customer uses around 3GB of data well… If someone is using 10x that for the same amount then they need to go somewhere else.

And Sprint has horrible coverage where some of us live. I am on Verizon, because of network and customer service. If you want unlimited data go check out http: To terminate people just because they refuse to get into a new deal to finance a phone under a more expensive plan is absurd and crossing a legal line.

You had to be a regular user of at least GB to get the letter. It is true that without a contract they can cut you off or charge more or do whatever they please. Even if they did as you accurately state, they could just waive the etf.

There is no grounds to sue. You will loose no matter who is your lawyer. The contract is strictly for the carriers benefit, it states in black and white that they can terminate any line or account they wish at any time VZW wishes and that you give up all rights to sue.

Notwithstanding this provision, if we make any changes to the dispute resolution provision of this Agreement, such changes will not affect the resolution of any disputes that arose before such change.

The last one is too broad, as Verizon will be forced to explain why every client with a grandfathered unlimited data plan is being forced to get in a new plan or get booted, especially if they do not tell how much data is too much.

An evolving paradigm for which Verizon will have to answer questions if their plans is to get everyone on tiered plans.. We will see, I guess. They would need to implement new regulations and make them retroactive in order for Verizon to be legally in the wrong though.

I was referring to clause E, as I witnessed Verizon do just that with other customers on tiered plans. The block C spectrum was acquired in while Verizon stopped selling unlimited data in Therefor, any unlimited plan in use right now is not apart of the C block licensing agreement.

They did it already once before even if you had a contract so yes no surprise. Those that are on a month to month bases with Verizon are not bound to the same laws as those still in a binding contract.

An just like everything else as long as they provide notification before the change they are in there legal right to change the terms of any plan or contract. Every wireless carrier has this written in to the terms.

And good for Verizon. And before I get flamed, I have no issue whatsoever with you using lots of data. They have put absolutely zero effort into making their network better over the past several years, and with subscribers, lines all going up..

There are a lot more dead spots with T-Mo in my area, mostly due to Band 12 being blocked by an old TV station that needs to die. Then we could all switch carriers without the barrier of buying a new phone.

The carriers would do a better job of maintaining their networks. I rock the 6P as well! He cannot activate VoLTE on it. Let me first say I am pissed. I have unlimited data and I use between 10 and 30 gigs per month so I am not a happy guy reading this article.

But I have to give Verizon credit right now. I am not sure where you live guessing Indiana, but I have to disagree with you. Out of the 4 major carriers, Verizon has been, by far, the carrier improving their network the most over the past 2 years.

I am from Louisville. Over the past 2 years, they have put up 21 new cell sites in our city. That is almost a new cell tower per month! T-Mobile has been the second best that I have witnessed, but they are mainly just throwing up new spectrum B12 or B2 or new cell sites.

I have seen Verizon also improve massively in Indy. Again…I am not thrilled to read this and I will gladly port my lines over somewhere else if they want to do this because, like you, I have been with Verizon since before they deployed 3G-EVDO in Louisville.

So I definitely feel your pain. I do not think T-Mobile will be able to keep up with all their new customers. AWS-3 will help them, but small cells are the winner when it comes to the future and being the fastest network, and only Verizon is getting that right.

I hope I fly under the radar with my usage, but I know I cant be on this legacy unlimited Verizon plan forever. But ya know what? The reason Verizon can deploy all these small cells and continuously win the network awards is because they make a crap-ton of money from their users.

But if I were in your shoes, not exactly thrilled with the service, I would surely walk away. Good luck to ya. The power of Verizon LTE in an incredibly saturated market.

I drop calls, text messages refuse to send sometimes, all kinds of issues. I can pull mbps at several spots in Louisville. I would have said bye quite a while ago….

Time to get a home internet service. We cut the Internet, phone, and cable cord years ago. Good luck finding an alternative that will allow you that kind of data and still have the coverage.

The only reason I use that much is because I cut my home Internet provide. I may actually save money if I go to Xfinity and Project Fi. I, too, dont have home internet, so if I wanted to use more than my data plan, I would park by the hotel or star bucks for free wifi.

No, I get it. Bye bye Big Red. I would get home internet if I could. I live in the center of a rural road 1 mile long with cable internet on both sides. When I bought my property the cable company said it was available to my property.

After the home was built and they came out to install is when the installer said not down our road. They then told us for k they would run the line to us. With 3 kids in school, internet is a necessity and not a choice.

Had that at last house before we moved for 7 years. Worst experience other than dial up and if you have issues which is constant you are talking to someone reading a script in India. I would tell them it was clear and sunny when I called and they would still read script to look out the window.

Where is all the government money for internet in rural areas going…. My area is not even rural. I was looking into it for my mom but as we were pulling the trigger, Optimum announced they would cable her neighborhood so I got her that instead.

Sorry about the recommendation. It seemed nice on paper while we were looking at it. By the way, look out your window for the weather; Is it raining?! So instead of manning up and paying the cost or barking up the tree of your cable company you get Verizon and go crazy with their network huh????

Manning up is being smart and realizing if you have unlimited data, truly unlimited data why in the world would you need to pony up for home internet when you can just tether from your phone….

Do you have any fiber optic networks by you like FiOS, etc or satellite? It might be time to see if T-Mobile or sprint has coverage where you live. I know people so rural its not even funny who at least have DSL.

What a great idea, let me look up and see what my options are! Regardless of where you go, you will have a limited data package. Only now with worse service. I usually only use about GB on my Verizon Unlimited.

For awhile I was averaging GB a month.. What else do they want from me!? Verizon refuses to provide my house with even crap DSL baseband access because for a giant farm I have next door!?

Really I think they are going to target the customers that use gb and up per month. How is Verizon in terms of coverage. I think you should stick with Verizon. Best to be safe with coverage than sorry.

I tend to work inside buildings and I have coworkers with tmo and they get either weak connections or none at all. You will get better coverage than any other carriers.

Your argument is completely idiotic. Oh, I can recognize sarcasm, but there was nothing in your comment to indicate you were being sarcastic. Im going to renew mine when the iPhone 7 comes out to my extra line than sell it.

I hope I can get out of this mess. My wife and I both use about GB of data a month. I have an extra line not with unlimited. It should work cuz a friend of mine at a store did it a few weeks ago.

Even under contract they can do whatever they want. They can even change the terms. Just have to give you notice 30 IIRC and give you the option of terminating the contract without paying the early termination fee.

Except in California where all unilateral contract changes, including implied, tacit and verbal ones are illegal. In fact both parties must agree to the change explicitly by agreeing to the change, or the changing party must either keep the contract the same for the remaining term if a contract goes month to month as part of the original deal in the contract, it must remain the same month to month perpetually as well or pay out the other party to break the contract customers do this but carriers never have.

This is contractual law in California but carriers will rarely ever follow it or mention it. Even in housing, which is WAY more important than your phone, month-to-month only need 60 days notice of termination if someone has lived there over one year.

That would not work in california, because the contract you sign literally says that they can change it at will and that you give them the authority to do so.

Verizon is a publicly traded company but they are still a private company. They have the right to refuse service to anyone, just like the bar down the road. Especially those out of contract, which the article specifically mentions.

No government authority has jurisdiction over this decision. What about people that are out of contract but are paying monthly for their phones. Does that consider to be a Verizon contract?

The agreement for each line and the phones are all going to be separate. So if you are using a ton of data, but your wife isnt, they might disconnect your line only.

Even with your line disconnected, they may still continue to accept monthly payments for your phone or depending on the contract might require payment due imediately. The US is covered by the Federal Civil Rights Act of, which prohibits discrimination by privately owned places of public accommodation on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin.

That includes the bar down the road. Similarly, Verizon while a private company is still subject to FCC regulation of all the spectrum that it licenses. The reason Verizon can get away with this is that they long ago allowed all those contracts to lapse.

People get banned from a bar for being too drunk, a jerk, or not paying. I would argue the FTC would enforce contracts if they still existed. The FCC collects fines for the most part.

Not the contracts themselves. Look through your comment history and count how many times you use actually and literally. Droid Life is an excellent place to teach discrimination law.

Real people cannot have a conversation that includes technicalities? The accounts involved are out of contract, so Verizon has a lot of flexibility in suspending service on them.

I agree that unlimited means unlimited; but running your entire home network and streaming movies onto multiple televisions in a household at once, just because you can as some people have claimed to be doing would appear excessive to me, and would negatively impact available bandwidth available to others on those same towers.

What I want to know: So, theoretically, this could impact all unlimited users. I think they are happy with unlimited customers that use 1 or two gigs a month and unhappy with anybody using something like 50 gig or more.

The guys with, they just want you gone. This is an FTC matter. Being out of contract means Verizon is not obligated to provide someone service. Unlimited means not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.

There are so many of you trolls here that literally root for this. Lol like we make a dent on their network, they have milked everyone with their high ass fees in the name of bettering the network, and they still bitch.

Please anti-unlimited data haters…I want to taste your tears…. While you are getting ready to build my wall, I will continue to have unlimited data…sorry if your lack of documents prevented you from enjoying the same….

Ba ja ja ja. Man, your mother must be proud. Some people would call that smart…. When you identify as Hispanic, it tells me quite a few things, but I appreciate the clarification.

How you vote is your own personal choice. Definitely not your fault, but no need to gloat about it. It just makes you sound cheap. At best, its in poor taste. In my case, I got tired of being nickel and dimed and threatened with the loss of my awesome unlimited plan.

I saw what they were doing, and I knew that was the company I wanted to give my money to because I believed in what they were doing. So why do I root for this? The article is actually very clear, and I do not yet know whether I would be deemed an extraordinary data user.

At this point, unlimited data is the only thing keeping me with them. With the technology getting cheaper every day and data plans getting more expensive, Verizon is doing anything but losing money.

Should I expect verizon to end up like Sprint? I do know that verizon has a bunch of debt, is getting rid of their wireline division and is actively finding ways to get rid of subscribers; similar to what sprint did 10 years ago.

Verizon Wireless reports its financials under VZC, but they operate as their own entity. People seem to think wireless bandwidth is infinite. Companies have to have to pay a TON of money to the FCC to license the spectrum, and that spectrum can only fit so many users on at one time at a max bandwidth.

Should they data prices be as expensive as they currently are? Comcast and the like have WAY more dark capacity sitting around, and them trying to push bandwidth caps are just crazy. Someone who makes sense.

Who would have thought it in amongst all this garbage spewing around here. Problem is they could lose 1 Million users and not feel it with million users on their network. Would need a consumer union and a mass following in the millions to take away the power from corporations.

Eventually they will…if they continue on this route. And other carriers continue on theirs. Where do you live? My speeds have increased since leaving Verizon. Yeah, Verizon used to throttle my speeds all the time https: Not that i will come back to verizon.

But not always the case. I am in NYC area. This screenshot was yesterday inside a building. Tags Unlimited Data Verizon. I smell a lawsuit. So has anyone received the dreaded letter or message of cancellation of UDP?

Glad I got out of the big red boat years ago. Article is here for confirmation, supposedly has a Verizon rep confirmation: Right lol I work hard for my money my phone bill is higher than my car note lol.

I just got off the phone with Verizon. How is this not a lawsuit? They are out of contract. Verizon does not owe them anything. You pay a pretty penny just like everyone else — what makes you special?

Yeah, sold my unlimited lines years ago — not necessary at all. Even if Verizon were to terminate your service, you will likely not have a winnable case. Verizon does not owe the customer anything anymore.

New 2 year contract via the best buy method? So if I avg about 38 gig a month would I be flagged? Get ready to pay for home internet. Prices are dropping… for tiered data. Verizon sucks big time.

Anyone thinks we can renew our contract on Verizon website. Again they have done this before. Sprint has truly unlimited plans! Is it a nationwide plan? Verizon can expect to have my big hairy balls dragged over their jawline in court.

You have nothing to fear with 20 GB. They are talking people in excess of GB. I hope they get sued. Offers unlimited data…tales it away. This is why Verizon is losing business.

Customers dont want to have to monitor their usage or risk getting screwed on overages. Bring back truly unlimited data you morons. People who regularly use in excess of GB.

You should be fine. My friend uses close to 1TB per month. He definitely deserves to get his line shut down. People like him ruin things for the rest of us. The lawyers will be out on this one.

Well I have used upwards of 1. I bet people wished they still had contracts now. Stephen De La Rosa. The day of reckoning is nigh. I kept telling you. Do you work for Verizon?

The limit is gigs. Trouble with reading comprehension, eh? Joe the Internet Guy. Project Fi is the future. Nailed it, my friend. This pisses me off so badly…. Until the data limits are defined, I smell a class action suit.

Thanks for the reply, I live in Chicago so I am debating…. If you had read, I mentioned Sprint. I use T-Mobile anyway. The congestion line was proven a lie already. This is horrible… LOL.

As you said, enjoy your day, and enjoy looking for an actual ISP for your home. I think you can pretty much be guaranteed that you are in that group. Public unsecured WiFi is not something I would use.

Are you able to tether using root or foxfi. Are you able to hide your tether usage. What a bunch a crap!! Show these Unlimited Data Hogs that they have to be like the rest of us! You have to look at the big picture.

They promised it from the start but only promised it to the end of your contract. My phone is thankfully unlocked so the transition will be easy if it becomes necessary.

Queue all the people who are off contract screaming that this violates their contract! Why would you put them all in a line? I do as well. Three lines with VZW is unlimited…including a Jetpack.

VZW can suck it. Best Buy method, however, was definitely shady. Let the butt hurt flow to all the people that either: So jealous of your unlimited messages. Well you your getting kicked off for sure.

To each his own, I said. Ha enjoy your new network. The equivalent Verizon plan gets you 4GB. I have Comcast and get Mbps speeds. It depends on where you live I guess.

I have that, it peaks at speeds of mbps. I use about that much on my plan. Not unlimited, turn it into your home internet for everyone to use. Sounds like too much trouble for me though.

Data is data, however you use it. Using your phone in your home is no longer allowed! I think this guy gets it. People have no reading comprehension these days. Unlimited no matter mobile or not is still unlimited data.

Go read your TOS. Hopefully sprint dosent follow suit with my Hotspot. Sprint is not in the position to kick customers away from their network. Just wondering how would you go about doing that while keeping unlimited?

There is no longer a way to sign a new 2 year contract and lock in Unlimited. BestBuy still does 2 yr contracts. Not sure if that would work or not. Nope, they switch you over to one of the new plans.

So is Gigs a month going to put me on the list. I believe this was sarcasm. Proof or it never happened. Sometimes I use 15Gb? Come to Cricket if you can. Then get the Cricket unlimited plan.

Or cricket is a solid alternative as well. Where did I say they were doing this for the customers? Hehe sorry about that. I was replying to someone else but typed it here. Watched movies on your phone?

Bye bye Verizon, it was good knowing you.. So there was no need to correct it. Can they legally do this? How can I get into a contract? If I have unlimited out of contract. What does root have to do with this?

I have a Nexus 6P, I just go into settings, turn on hotspot, done. This was going to happen eventually. Either they back up of their plans, or face major consequences. What would the major consequences be?

Terms of small claims is set by the judge presiding,. None of that is correct. Once the two years are up it is a month to month. No, once again, depends on your state. Just like my landlord cant bar me from having pets.

It is the same law that covers that. The contract was for two years, once that is over they can do whatever they want to you. The plans that will be changing are the plans after that, when LTE came out.

I did read your comment, and I am giving you the most possible scenario in a legal way. The answer is they cannot for two reasons: The logic is similar, and Verizon can be seriously punished If Verizon is allowed to proceed, what would be the next thing they will try.

People are still under contract with a UDP, myself included. Crossing my fingers you get to hold onto it. Sprint has truly unlimited data! How does this work? Shoot me a text You were going somewhere good until you mentioned sprint.

Can Verizon Wireless change this Agreement or my Service? Waivers and limitations of liability You and Verizon Wireless both agree to limit claims against each other for damages or other monetary relief to direct damages.

You agree to arbitration in the terms of service. Get a clue dude. Verizon bought that block in March Deployed their LTE network in You must be referring to something else that happened in The time has come..

Thankfully mine does have it. Calls at my house can be incredibly frustrating. Both technologies are very different from each other and as of now there is no easy fix that can make a GSM device compatible with a CDMA network.

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Now get out of the way, so I can watch VZW users squirm. I was looking into it for my mom but as we were pulling the trigger, Optimum announced they would cable her neighborhood so I got her that instead. But if there are a bunch of people out there doing the same as you then I can see why Big Red is upset. Regardless, we are in a world where everything is internet connected. I average gig a month. None of that is correct.

People like him ruin things for the rest of us. Apple iPhones for Verizon. Just because Verizon wants people to change their plans to more expensive ones does not make it legal for them to kick them out just because of those customers not willing to change their plans, as Verizon Wireless is subject to certain rules under Title II classification by the FCC. Verizon is proving that they can do what they want when they want and still have customers on their side.

Lol Well I am a socialist. Anyone thinks we can renew our contract on Verizon website. I use T-Mobile anyway.

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Just because Verizon wants all their grandfathered customers on unlimited data plans in tiered plans does NOT give them the right to force people out of those plans if they want to stay as their customers beyond their contractual obligations involving an early termination fee. For some reason, I think you are on to something. When you identify as Hispanic, it tells me quite a few things, but I appreciate the clarification. See…

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